Maitreya
- An Extraordinary Being: An Interview with Wayne Peterson
by Carol Bedrosian
For about seven or eight years, Spirit of
Change has received news articles about positive social and political
changes happening around the globe from an organization called Share
International. I always appreciated receiving this information which
checked out to be well-grounded and researched, and I published several
articles over the years. Usually an article or a paragraph about a
person called the World Teacher Maitreya (my-tray-a) was included in the
offerings, but I never chose to publish those because I wanted to know
more about who this teacher was before I published the information. It
was unclear to me whether Maitreya was a physical person walking among
us or a spiritual entity whose teachings were channeled or in some way
transmitted by another person. The information did catch my eye, though,
because its message always conveyed the qualities of sharing, equality,
justice and hope, and inspired the same in me.
In the first few years of receiving the
articles, I noticed that a tag line was included with the information
about Maitreya which said something to this effect: Benjamin Creme is
the only authorized spokesperson for Maitreya. The tag line bothered me
because I liked what I was reading but not the fact that it appeared to
be controlled by some English author who thought he was the sole
spokesperson for someone on this planet close to being God. Still, I
read the articles when they arrived and wondered when or if I would ever
publish any of the information. Eventually I noticed that the tag line
disappeared from the articles altogether.
In mid-December, I received an
announcement about a new book called Extraordinary Times, Extraordinary
Beings: Experiences of an American Diplomat with Maitreya and the
Masters of Wisdom, with an invitation to interview the author. The book,
by retired foreign service diplomat Wayne Peterson, tells the story of
how he first met Maitreya, (whom he and others refer to as the Christ,)
and the group of highly evolved spiritual beings called the Masters, who
surround Maitreya and oversee the evolution of our planet. The book
follows Peterson's career in government service where he met many other
highly-placed people who have had similar experiences of Maitreya and
gives hope that the possibility of making our world a better place is
more than just a dream. In fact, the book reports, many key leaders are
already in place to enact change when the time is right. I strategically
placed the letter within view to the side of my desk because I thought
that maybe the time had arrived to give this teacher and his message a
closer look.
Around the same time, I was having
conversations with Walter Semkiw, M.D., author of the book Astrology for
Regular People as well as the article "Return of the
Revolutionaries," which appears in this issue of Spirit of Change.
Walter and I delightedly noted several coincidences and synchronicities
as our business together unfolded, and then he mentioned that I should
talk with a man named Wayne Peterson (as I glanced at the letter to my
right.) It was the last prompt that I needed.
I savored reading the exciting and
fascinating accounts reported as fact by Mr. Peterson in Extraordinary
Times, Extraordinary Beings because they confirmed my own ideas that if
properly inspired, humanity could rise to the challenge of a radical
transformation and be guided to live by spiritual principles. At the
same time, I was plunged into debate with friends and colleagues who
argued that Creme/Maitreya was just another power-tripping guru wannabe,
fulfilling our longings for an easy way out of the mess we've made of
the planet today. His ultimate goal, they say, is to exploit as many
followers as possible for personal profit or grandeur (as demagogues
have done for all of recorded history), while wasting everyone's time
and efforts in the process as we "wait" for him to save us,
rather than work to save ourselves. (See the web page for New Heaven,
New Earth at www.nhne.com)
After much consideration, soul and web
searching, I decided that I should print the information so readers
could decide for themselves if Maitreya is indeed the World Teacher,
here to inspire us and help us solve our most critical, perhaps fatal,
global crises or if he's just another hoax. Since science has already
declared that there won't be enough fresh water on the planet to provide
for our needs in less than fifty years, is it possible that we are
within reach of the wisdom and willingness to alter our course of
destiny through spiritual awakening as proposed by Maitreya instead of
simply waiting for our eventual destruction at the hands of our own
wasteful consumerism? Maitreya does not claim he has come to fix our
problems, but to show us how to do the work ourselves, beginning with
the realization that all of humanity is one family and sharing is our
way of life. In many ways, the details of his circumstances bear a
striking resemblance to the emergence of Jesus Christ into the world
when he brought the teachings of love to humanity two thousand years ago
as reported in the New Testament of the Bible. Who believed John the
Baptist when he said he was "preparing the way?" Jesus, we
crucified. Was their spiritual mission for real? Perhaps the simple
words of my good friend puts it well in perspective: If Maitreya is
real, that's great and let's get on with the change. If he's a fake,
then shame on them.
Carol Bedrosian: I must admit that
I found Extraordinary Times, Extraordinary Beings an absorbing book, to
say the least. I found its message impacting my thoughts and
consciousness continuously throughout the time I was reading it and in
the days following. Very provocative. How would you describe the core of
this information?
Wayne Peterson: I see it as
changing the consciousness of humanity worldwide. We need to begin to
look at ourselves in a different way and ask "who are we?" and
"where are we going?" There is such a disconnection between
our spiritual life and our everyday life because we have become so
accustomed to attending church on Sundays - if we call that our
spiritual life - then going back to our business life which may be in
total conflict with what we had just been talking about on Sunday. We
don't see life as a whole, we don't live life as a whole and that is the
biggest message that is coming from Maitreya. He says, "I am going
to teach you the art of living. You don't know how to live. You don't
know how to enjoy yourself." He keeps telling us that we are far
too serious and I think that we are in many ways. We need to have time
for ourselves because we've gotten on this treadmill and everybody knows
how life has just speeded up and we have very little time. We don't have
time to sit back and contemplate about who we are as souls and where we
are going and how life could be different or better. We're simply too
busy. We're overwhelmed and tired. And that is what is going to change
in the future - we will focus on ourselves and trying to learn who we
are.
Carol: Your words seem to point
towards greater self-absorption. I feel that today's population,
especially Americans, are already very self-absorbed and only interested
in what makes them most comfortable. You mentioned in your book that
there is a lack of awareness in this country about the rest of the world
and whole nations of people who are not as comfortable as we are, yet
what you are talking about here seems to reinforce that.
Wayne: There is a total lack of
awareness, as you mention, and that is an example of not knowing who we
are. If we knew that we were not isolated beings as we tend to believe
we are, I think we would lose a lot of that self-absorption and come to
greater understanding that we are in this together, that every soul on
this planet has a special relationship to every other soul. If even one
member of humanity is left behind, he is sort of that anchor dragging
and holding back the rest of us, so there is a need for all of us to
move forward as a group. That is simply part of the recognition of who
we are, as well: we are humanity, a group that must rely on one another.
The first step in achieving all of our goals is a recognition that there
is a brotherhood of man. Without that, you will never have sharing
because you don't want to share if you don't think the other guy counts.
Without sharing you can never have justice in the world and without
justice you can never have world peace. It all starts with this idea
that there is a brotherhood of man.
Carol: So the contemplation that
you are talking about - people having the time and the space to
contemplate - you feel this would lead to the recognition of that
brotherhood?
Wayne: I think it would because
that is what's missing in our lives today. All the great teachers tell
us that we have to share and recognize each other as brothers and
sisters. We are here to serve everyone. This is what Maitreya is putting
forward when He says we have gotten off the path somewhere.
Carol: Do you feel that the
increase of materialism is what has gotten us off the path?
Wayne: That has probably pushed us
more towards the idea of competition rather than cooperation. Business
today is of a competitive nature. We don't hear people talking much
about cooperation; we always hear about the competitive nature.
Competition has set individual against individual, group against group,
and nation against nation. So yes, that probably has something to do
with it.
Carol: I would characterize Spirit
of Change readers as people who are concerned about the direction the
world is taking, the growing disparity between the have's and have not's,
the environmental and moral pollution all around us. Sometimes we just
throw our hands up in despair and say "it's useless - the problems
are too big." Your book refers to Maitreya as a being or a
consciousness or an entity who could possibly offer solutions to some of
humanity's problems and offer inspirations as to how we should proceed.
Wayne: That statement was perfect
because when you say that people throw up their hands in despair, that
is exactly it. At this point, the only reason Maitreya and the Masters
want to show themselves publicly and live out in the open and work with
us is that they feel that we have lost control and have gotten to the
point where we are now incapable of putting ourselves back on the path.
We have gotten ourselves in so deep over our heads that no nation, no
group of people can do enough to pull us back out of this. Maitreya's
message is that humanity can be guided back onto the right path and
through working with the Masters, bring new technology into our lives to
bring these changes about.
Carol: What kind of technology?
Wayne: What we need more than
anything else right now is a new source of energy. That is something
that Maitreya has promised, we are told. I understand that there are
scientists working on new types of energy right now that will free us
from our use of fossil fuel. All of our nuclear power plants can be shut
down and we'll have abundant energy for every village in the world.
Carol: What type of energy would
this be?
Wayne: My own feeling is that
probably in the beginning there will be several forms, but ultimately,
it has been reported that we will have an energy form stemming from a
chemical reaction that is based on water. Whether that is the first
solution or not I don't know because I don't have that sort of a
background. I do know that we are going to be freed of our attachments
to fossil fuel.
Carol: What about the larger
problem of greed? We always want more and more and more. Even myself, a
person who is fairly aware and has all the basic necessities of life,
has to think twice about how to use an extra thousand dollars. Do I
spend it on myself to make my life more comfortable, pay bills, or
whatever, or do I share it with someone who doesn't have any food? I
mean, there's always something more I can acquire; it never ends. Is a
new, clean source of energy just going to fuel our greed even more?
Wayne: I think the major point on
greed stems from fear and, of course, humans have always lived in fear.
That is one of the great problems humanity has - a fear that somehow
there isn't enough to go around and if we give something to someone
else, we ourselves are going to go without at some point. You can never
collect enough money to dispel all the fear, to buy yourself a safe
position.
Once Maitreya has made Himself known
worldwide, I think we'll see how silly it is to fear life because He
will make it known that there is nothing to fear from sharing. When you
talk to people about sharing I don't really think they understand what
that is all about because they think about it like a taxation. The
government is going to take more from me and give to those who don't
have anything and I don't want to give anymore. We do sharing in a very
sensible way in this country already. We have fifty states that sort of
have a pact to share with each other. We don't allow one state to go
into misery like some nation in Africa. If there is a tragedy in Arizona
the federal government steps in and takes care of it so that the fifty
states in our country are constantly sharing. We don't have this on a
worldwide basis. We still have barriers of trade and exchanges and other
things commercially across international borders. The whole continent of
Africa is almost ostracized so that very little trade goes on and we
have this huge poverty problem.
Carol: I understand that Maitreya
appeared in quite a spectacular way in Africa.
Wayne: Yes, in Nairobi, Kenya in
East Africa in 1988. It was carried on CNN and covered extremely well in
this country with the headlines "Could this be Jesus Christ
returned?" Certainly the 7,000 people in Nairobi that saw him
believed it was. There could be a number of reasons why he appeared so
publicly in Africa - of course Africa being the poorest continent. I
think that was a sign that he was reaching out to the people that were
probably suffering the most, not only from lack of trade, but lack of
food as well. A lot of people starve in Africa, and then there is a huge
refugee problem with the small tribal wars that have been going on in
Africa. Maitreya said that it is Africans that would be the first people
to come and support Him.
Carol: Why has Maitreya not made
public appearances in the United States to garner the support and wealth
that this nation has in order to move this message forward more quickly?
Wayne: I do think that He has made
public appearances, but people have not recognized Him. He makes public
appearances around the world, but He doesn't announce who He is or where
He is going to appear ahead of time. He is out in the public, we are
told by those who work with Him, and He is known in various circles, but
not by the name Maitreya.
Carol: Your book describes a Day
of Declaration. Could you give a recount of that here?
Wayne: The Day of Declaration, as
far as I understand it, is simply an opportunity for Maitreya to finally
say who He is and present himself to humanity, saying that He wants
humanity's cooperation to move us into a new world and a new way of
living. At this time He will also introduce us to some of those who are
working with Him. It probably won't be a long event, but it is to be
telepathic I am told, so that when He speaks to the world everyone will
think that they have heard Him in their own native language because they
will have heard it telepathically. I know that when people hear a
telepathic message for the first time they could swear that they heard a
voice.
Carol: You describe those
encounters in your book. On several occasions you write that you met
Maitreya or He crossed your path, but He never looked the same when you
saw Him at these different times. In fact you weren't even sure that it
was Him until well after the experience was unfolding or even
afterwards, when looking back in retrospect, you realized that it was
Maitreya that you were encountering.
Wayne: That is the experience of
most people. Many people have met Him and do not recognize Him and that
is understandable because we have sort of a preconceived idea of what He
would look like and how He would appear and what He would be wearing.
When He doesn't fit that description, it is easy to dismiss the
experience. But then there is always something in the back of your mind
that just won't let go and you go for days, weeks, months - some people
have even gone years thinking about that face and wondering why they
can't get it out of their mind - until they read something about
Maitreya and then they know that was Him. They just know it.
Carol: There are very many stories
in the Bible of Jesus Christ appearing to people and them not
recognizing that it was Jesus Christ.
Wayne: Yes, and I think there is a
great lesson in that He is trying to teach us that there is the God
imminent in all human beings, even those that we despise. Usually we
have some prejudice about some group of people in our own mind, even
though we may not recognize the prejudice in an outward sort of way, and
very often He will appear to people in the way of someone that they
would least want to sit down and have a discussion with. Very often He
will appear as a beggar to people because most people don't want to be
bothered by beggars. They just turn their gaze away and walk by as
quickly as they can. But very often He appears as a beggar to people,
basically saying, "are you prepared to share? Why does this make
you uncomfortable that there are poor around you?" At other times
He appears as a person from a different racial group and people will
say, "well, this isn't the way I expect the Christ to reappear, yet
here He is."
Carol: Do you think that the
heating up of the situation in the Middle East is an indication that the
crises of humanity are about to come to a head? Is it your belief that
this situation in the Middle East could erupt into Word War III?
Wayne: I don't think so. I think
that with Maitreya and the Masters working in the world, I don't think
that there is any possibility whatsoever that we will have a World War
III. To me, that is just not conceivable at all.
Carol: What about the prophesies
throughout history in many of the world's cultures that point to the
time around the year 2025 as a turning point wherein a new world order
will have been established which will be peaceful and loving?
Wayne: I think that's exactly it.
I think that the next twenty years are years of rapid change and I hope
that most of humanity is ready for the changes.
Carol: What type of changes will
these be?
Wayne: I think that they will just
be overwhelming. We will be living in a world that is not only peaceful,
but a world that takes care of everyone's needs.
Carol: How is that going to
happen? How will those who own the money and power now voluntarily begin
sharing with those who are in need?
Wayne: Well, first of all, simply
by understanding that the system is broke. The global capitalist economy
has basically created a global economic system so that nations that want
to trade with the U.S. have to follow certain rules and regulations. The
International Monetary Fund is tied in there and most of the world
except Africa is pretty much tied into this. That system is broken,
which was proven with the Asian currency crisis several years ago. But
the major changes really won't take effect until the money managers see
that our stock market has a big down turn. Maitreya has said that he
will appear shortly after there is a crash on the U.S. stock market. Who
is going to listen to his ideas on a new economic plan for the world if
people feel that the current system is fine? And people in this country
certainly feel that everything is okay.
Carol: Is there any prediction as
to when that crash might occur?
Wayne: Well, I just picked up my
most recent issue of Time magazine and the cover of it says "How to
Survive the Slump." There has been a lot of talk in the last week
or two about recession in this country and how the stock market has not
been responding even after the Federal Reserve has dropped the interest
rate. I think that we are moving into it right now. Maitreya has let
people know about this for a while. He talked about Japan first. Well,
that happened maybe six or seven years ago where the bubble burst and
the stock market went down and real estate prices fell in Japan. Then He
said the rest of Asia would follow. Well, that happened two years ago.
Then He said it would go to Russia and that happened two years ago. Now
the only countries left are a few European nations and the United States
that are still having the economic boom. The rest of the world has
already had their recession, loss of currency or whatever, so this might
be the time for us right now.
Carol: You have had personal
encounters with Maitreya and the Masters of Wisdom. How do people who
have not had these encounters recognize them or participate in this
awakening?
Wayne: I think it is very
important that people simply be aware. Maitreya feels that there should
be no effort on trying to literally prove to people He is here; it's not
what this is about. But He does want people to be aware that there is a
possibility that He is around. As long as people are aware, it allows
Him to come forward, closer to us. What people can do is simply invite
Him mentally into the world and that is not happening enough. People
often say to me, "What can I do to speed up this process?" I
say "Have you invited Maitreya and the Masters to come openly into
the world?" And they say "No, He can do that when He
wants." I tell them, "No, He can't. He lives by certain rules
also, and one of those is not to infringe upon humanity's free
will." Unless we invite Him in, He has to be very cautious on how
He extends His image to humanity. I would certainly invite the Christ
back into the world. By just doing that everyday is going to help this
effort tremendously.
Carol: What are the transmission
meditations you talk about in your book?
Wayne: Benjamin Creme said that
Maitreya had asked people to do this type of meditation which would help
Him and the Masters come into the world faster. I joined a meditation
group and it was right after that when I began to have my contacts with
Maitreya and the Masters. It is a group meditation that speeds His entry
into the world by making it possible for Him to contact important world
leaders to work for the changes that we need to take place in all of our
institutions. This is not a spiritual happening as much as it is a
change in the way we do business on the planet - and that means our
politics, our economic system and all of our social institutions.
Carol: You mentioned some high
ranking public figures in the book. Can you name some of those people?
Wayne: There are a few people who
have spoken out. I heard Nelson Mandela, myself, in Washington, DC talk
about the Christ visiting him in his prison cell. When we look at the
Soviet Union during the Cold War and wonder how that broke down, I think
we have to look toward Mikhail Gorbachev who was the leader at that
time. There is a certain friend of mine, who is also an important figure
in Washington, that I gave a book to about Maitreya's mission.
Unfortunately, I can't mention his name because that is one of the
things that I promised I wouldn't do. This man was invited to attend a
meeting in Europe with a group of world leaders who got together to talk
about Maitreya and our changing times because he had given a speech and
included so much of Maitreya's material out of the book that I had given
him. The other world leaders recognized what he was saying and asked,
"how did you get this information?" He said, "my friend
Wayne insisted that I read this book" and they said, "ah-ha,
you know about Maitreya." They made it known to him that everyone
around that table knew of Maitreya, even though they could not come out
and use their names for fear of losing contact with the people that they
represented. There was one man in the room, though, that stood up and
said, "I don't care if you use my name," and that was Mikhail
Gorbachev.
Carol: Do you know of any former
US presidents that are aware of Maitreya and the work?
Wayne: When I did transmission
meditation in Washington DC, we used the house of one of President
George Bush's advisors. The man himself was not a member of the group
but allowed his housekeeper to host our meetings. One evening, while Mr.
Bush was having dinner with his associate, he jokingly asked our group
hostess, "Am I going to win this election against Bill
Clinton?" and she said "No, Mr. President, Lord Maitreya has
already said that you are going to loose." At least he heard it
from that one point, but I'm sure he has probably had other contacts
with Maitreya as well.
You have to remember that often when
Maitreya meets with these people, He represents himself as a regular
human being. He will wear a business suit and a tie and they will be
very impressed with His deep knowledge of the subject but that doesn't
necessarily they see Him as the Christ. It means that they are just as
bewildered as anyone else. There are some world leaders who immediately
recognize who He is and become very devoted to Him, but there are others
who remain skeptical. They keep asking for His advice, but then they
don't necessarily take that advice .
Carol: I understand that the
teachings of Maitreya are disseminated in the United States through an
organization called the Tara Center. How is this funded?
Wayne: You know it is barely an
organization. Maitreya doesn't want any organization to exist that
represents Him in any way and I can understand why, because He doesn't
want to give any group the sense that they are ahead of any others in
representing Him or His views. He wants to do that Himself. Tara Center
exists in name because in this country you can't do business unless you
have a name and an organization. In fact, there is no leadership to it.
It is a loose group of volunteers who work to get information out about
Maitreya through newsletters, books and through Share International
magazine, which is printed up in the Netherlands and goes out in a
number of foreign languages. They don't have a lot money and there are
not a lot of volunteers within the organization.
Carol: What is your personal
outlook for the future?
Wayne: For my future, I simply
have to stay focused on the Day of Declaration because at that point
everything is going to break loose all of the sudden and I think there
will be enormous trauma on this planet.
Carol: Why?
Wayne: Because it is going to be
so overwhelming for the many people who have yet not heard about this. I
think what will be overwhelming is the fact that there exists a fifth
kingdom on this planet - meaning Maitreya and The Masters of Wisdom -
who have been guiding this planet since humanity began.
Carol: But still within the
confines of human free will.
Wayne: Exactly. They know us
intimately and they also know so much about the science of how this
planet lives. What will be difficult, I think, is that when Maitreya
comes forward, he will basically explain to us there are no miracles as
we think of them. These are all scientific happenings that we do not
fully understand. He and the Masters of Wisdom are not some fantastic
beings we won't understand - we will understand them. We will become
like them at some point. This whole change of consciousness and living
depends on a technology far superior to what we use today and that must
be implemented within the next twenty years. You can see that if we
suddenly no longer use fossil fuels, if our cars no longer run on the
old energy, if we have a new type of transportation by air that is so
cheap that the average person anywhere in the world can travel to
another culture, we are going to see a world transformed in ways that we
can't even begin to imagine. It is overwhelming.
Carol: So the predictions that say
that great change will come about through destructive world cataclysms
may not be the only scenario?
Wayne: That's right. The world
changes will simply come through our understanding of how this planet
functions and putting that to work for us.
Carol: And then we would no longer
be degrading the environment, we would no longer be ignoring our
brothers and sisters who are in poverty.
Wayne: Exactly. The first priority
is to feed the hungry of the world so that no one dies of starvation
since there are still 25,000 people a day starving to death. That is the
first priority of Maitreya and the Masters. The second is taking care of
the environment. That is huge. It is huge because we don't feel we can
do much about it with the chemicals and the power plants and everything
else that we use today. So that has to be gotten rid of immediately. I
know that the first thing that will probably happen is to close all of
the nuclear power stations around the world that are so dangerous to our
health.
Of course there will be the health issue
as well. We are told that diseases as we know them today simply will no
longer exist because of this new technology. We already see it in the
new DNA cures that we're beginning to come out with. All you have to
read is the medical journals and you know we're on the doorstep of a
totally new world of medicine. I think Maitreya sort of holds the key to
the last secrets of this and He is doing that because He wants to make
an impact when He comes out on the Day of Declaration. Then we will see
scientists getting the very last bits of information they need to make
this practical for human use.
Carol: Is there anything else that
you would like to wrap this up with?
Wayne: I think that your questions
have been excellent in a sense that this is really about simply making
people aware that a being like Maitreya exists and to watch the
newspapers. Don't believe it just because someone tells you. That is the
wrong way to go about this, but remember that if there is such a being
in the world, then you would want to watch and see what changes are
taking place. I think watching what happens in our stock market is
important and then look to see if a guest appears on a major talk show
that will so rivet people's attention that they will demand to know more
about who this man is and that will lead to the Day of Declaration.
For more information about Maitreya,
contact the Tara Center at 888-242-8272 or visit shareintl.org.
For more information about Wayne Peterson's book Extraordinary Times,
Extraordinary Beings please visit waynepeterson.com.
To locate a transmission meditation group near you in New England,
please call the Tara Center or write to Transmission Group, PO Box
16083, Rumford, RI 02916.
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